Civilization Less Than a Child's

0:00[introducing recording]

Introduction to Hawaii morning walk

0:01Śrutakīrti: The following conversation takes place on Śrīla Prabhupāda's morning walk, on June 8th, 1975, at Kailua Beach, Hawaii.

Description of devotees as siddha-sattva

0:11Prabhupāda: ...devotees are described as siddha-sattva-maṇi, siddha-sattva-maṇi. [break]

0:21Harikeśa: I haven't listened to it all, though. That's why the tapes aren't done. [break]

Dismissal of problems through disbelief

0:27Prabhupāda: ...people, by not believing in the next life, they have dismissed all problems. Very happy life.

Hedonistic philosophy of modern life

0:47Bali-mardana: They have one saying, "Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow you'll die." That's right. Very good civilization. [break] ...Āryan civilization.

Comparison of Aryan and barbarian civilizations

1:05This is not Āryan civilization.

Childhood understanding of bodily change

1:13Barbarian. [break] A small child, he knows that "I shall become like my elder brother. I shall get this body, next body." And these people, they cannot understand that there is next body.

1:33That means their civilization is less than a child's civilization. [break] ...dehantara prāptiḥ.

Scientific pride and spiritual ignorance

1:47Bali-mardana: Even every child knows that "When I grow up, I will have a different body,"... Yes. Bali-mardana: ...but they do not know. These people, they do not understand. What kind of civilized men they are?

1:59Less than a child, and they are proud of their science.

Observations of local fishing activities

2:13[break]

2:13Devotee: They're trying to catch some fish.

2:15Paramahaṁsa: What are they doing?

2:15Devotee: They're fishing.

2:17Prabhupāda: Oh.

2:20Devotee: Crabs. [break]

2:22Prabhupāda: ...fisherman?

2:24Devotee (2): Yes.

2:25Prabhupāda: They keep this side open and this side covered. You see that?

2:30Devotee (2): Yes.

2:32Prabhupāda: Front side covered, back side open. [break] ...some fishermen. [end]