Learning the Science of Kṛṣṇa

0:00: Room Conversation with Hanuman Prasad Poddar [Hindi and English] Type: Conversation Dated: February 3rd 1971 Location: Gorakphur Audio file: 710203R1-GORAKPHUR.mp3

Qualifications and roles in spiritual life

0:11Prabhupāda: Ratha-yātrā. [Hindi] [Hindi] He is a gṛhastha. [Hindi] also sannyāsī.. [Hindi] Gṛhastha.. CC Madhya 8.128কিবা বিপ্র, কিবা ন্যাসী, শূদ্র কেনে নয় ।যেই কৃষ্ণতত্ত্ববেত্তা, সেই ‘গুরু’ হয় ॥ ১২৮ ॥kibā vipra, kibā nyāsī, śūdra kene nayayei kṛṣṇa-tattva-vettā, sei 'guru' haya“Whether one is a brāhmaṇa, a sannyāsī or a śūdra — regardless of what he is — he can become a spiritual master if he knows the science of Kṛṣṇa.”[Hindi] "One has to learn the science of Kṛṣṇa, then he becomes spiritual master.

0:42It does not matter whether a sannyāsī or a gṛhastha." I've known gṛhastha he was 1000 times better than so many sannyāsīs [laughs]. [Hindi] Nityānanda prabhu—gṛhastha, Advaita prabhu— gṛhastha, [Hindi]

1:30CC Madhya 8.128কিবা বিপ্র, কিবা ন্যাসী, শূদ্র কেনে নয় ।যেই কৃষ্ণতত্ত্ববেত্তা, সেই ‘গুরু’ হয় ॥ ১২৮ ॥kibā vipra, kibā nyāsī, śūdra kene nayayei kṛṣṇa-tattva-vettā, sei 'guru' haya“Whether one is a brāhmaṇa, a sannyāsī or a śūdra — regardless of what he is — he can become a spiritual master if he knows the science of Kṛṣṇa.”[Hindi] [Hindi]

2:02Mahāprabhu's the movement, it is very important. Systematically [Hindi conversation] [Hindi] [Hindi] Yato mat tato path. [Hindi] Bhutva bhava sa maṇḍita. [Hindi] CC Madhya 17.136অতঃ শ্রীকৃষ্ণনামাদি ন ভবেদ্‌গ্রাহ্যমিন্দ্রিয়ৈঃ ।সেবোন্মুখে হি জিহ্বাদৌ স্বয়মেব স্ফুরত্যদঃ ॥ ১৩৬ ॥ataḥ śrī-kṛṣṇa-nāmādina bhaved grāhyam indriyaiḥsevonmukhe hi jihvādausvayam eva sphuraty adaḥ“ ‘Therefore material senses cannot appreciate Kṛṣṇa’s holy name, form, qualities and pastimes. When a conditioned soul is awakened to Kṛṣṇa consciousness and renders service by using his tongue to chant the Lord’s holy name and taste the remnants of the Lord’s food, the tongue is purified, and one gradually comes to understand who Kṛṣṇa really is.’

Spiritual identity and universal ownership

3:21[Hindi conversation] [Hindi]

3:59government service, government servant [Hindi] first of all, we are servant of Kṛṣṇa we have got claim. [laughs] [Hindi] īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam: [Īśo mantra 1] [Hindi conversation] lokānāṁ hita-kāriṇau

Welfare work and universal liberation

8:25[Hindi] nānā-śāstra-vicāraṇaika-nipuṇau sad-dharma-saṁsthāpakaulokānāṁ hita-kāriṇau tri-bhuvane mānyau śaraṇyākaraurādhā-kṛṣṇa-padāravinda-bhajanānandena mattālikauvande rūpa-sanātanau raghu-yugau śrī-jīva-gopālakau[Śrī Śrī Ṣaḍ-gosvāmy-aṣṭaka 2]

8:26lokānāṁ hita-kāriṇau [Hindi] patitānāṁ pāvanebhyo vaiṣṇavebhyo namo namaḥ [Hindi conversation] [Hindi conversation] BG 9.32मां हि पार्थ व्यपाश्रित्य येऽपि स्युः पापयोनयः ।स्त्रियो वैश्यास्तथा शूद्रास्तेऽपि यान्ति परां गतिम् ॥३२॥māṁ hi pārtha vyapāśrityaye 'pi syuḥ pāpa-yonayaḥstriyo vaiśyās tathā śūdrāste 'pi yānti parāṁ gatimO son of Pṛthā, those who take shelter in Me, though they be of lower birth – women, vaiśyas [merchants] and śūdras [workers] – can attain the supreme destination.pāpa-yonayaḥ [Hindi conversation]

8:51BG 9.33किं पुनर्ब्राह्मणाः पुण्या भक्ता राजर्षयस्तथा ।अनित्यमसुखं लोकमिमं प्राप्य भजस्व माम् ॥३३॥kiṁ punar brāhmaṇāḥ puṇyābhaktā rājarṣayas tathāanityam asukhaṁ lokamimaṁ prāpya bhajasva māmHow much more this is so of the righteous brāhmaṇas, the devotees and the saintly kings. Therefore, having come to this temporary, miserable world, engage in loving service unto Me.[Hindi conversation] CC Adi 9.41ভারত–ভূমিতে হৈল মনুষ্য–জন্ম যার ।জন্ম সার্থক করি’ কর পর–উপকার ॥ ৪১ ॥bhārata-bhūmite haila manuṣya janma yārajanma sārthaka kari' kara para-upakāra“One who has taken his birth as a human being in the land of India [Bhārata-varṣa] should make his life successful and work for the benefit of all other people.[Hindi conversation]

9:10it is the duty of every Indian [Hindi conversation] BG 18.66सर्वधर्मान्परित्यज्य मामेकं शरणं व्रज ।अहं त्वां सर्वपापेभ्यो मोक्षयिष्यामि मा शुचः ॥६६॥sarva-dharmān parityajyamām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vrajaahaṁ tvāṁ sarva-pāpebhyomokṣayiṣyāmi mā śucaḥAbandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reactions. Do not fear.

Surrender to the supreme personality

9:51[Hindi conversation]

9:51we are canvassing [Hindi conversation] kṛṣṇas tu bhagavān svayam SB 1.3.28 [Hindi conversation] I am very well pleased that you are... Certified that this is the greatest service to the humanity. [Hindi] Thank you very much. [Hindi conversation] for this materialistic way of life [Hindi]

11:38athāto brahma jijñāsā [Vedānta-sūtra] [Hindi conversation] Bhagavad-gītā As It Is, kṛṣṇas tu bhagavān svayam SB 1.3.28, sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁśaraṇaṁ vraja BG 18.66man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru Bg. 18.65

Attaining the platform of absolute truth

12:42[Hindi conversation]

12:42Hanuman: ...brahma-bhūyāya kalpate BG 14.26BG 18.54ब्रह्मभूतः प्रसन्नात्मा न शोचति न काङ्क्षति ।समः सर्वेषु भूतेषु मद्भक्तिं लभते पराम् ॥५४॥brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmāna śocati na kāṅkṣatisamaḥ sarveṣu bhūteṣumad-bhaktiṁ labhate parāmOne who is thus transcendentally situated at once realizes the Supreme Brahman and becomes fully joyful. He never laments or desires to have anything. He is equally disposed toward every living entity. In that state he attains pure devotional service unto Me.mad-bhaktiṁ, mad..

14:49Prabhupāda: Ah. [Hindi conversation] BG 7.19बहूनां जन्मनामन्ते ज्ञानवान्मां प्रपद्यते ।वासुदेवः सर्वमिति स महात्मा सुदुर्लभः ॥१९॥bahūnāṁ janmanām antejñānavān māṁ prapadyatevāsudevaḥ sarvam itisa mahātmā su-durlabhaḥAfter many births and deaths, he who is actually in knowledge surrenders unto Me, knowing Me to be the cause of all causes and all that is. Such a great soul is very rare.

Limitations of science and book distribution

16:19Hanuman: māṁ prapadyate Prabhupāda***: ***sa mahātmā su-durlabhaḥ [Hindi conversation] māṁ vetti, māṁ vetti.. manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu kaścid yatati siddhaye yatatām api siddhānāṁ siddhānām siddhānāṁ

16:19Prabhupāda: Ah.

16:19Hanuman: kaścin māṁ vetti tattvataḥ, siddhānām jñānināṁ

16:19Prabhupāda: jñāninām muktinaṁ [Hindi conversation] [Hindi] material science... Advanced... 100 years back [Hindi conversation] [Hindi] . Nectar of Devotion [Hindi] photographs you have brought some record here?

18:04Yaśodānandana: It's in my other case, two records I have got.

18:07Prabhupāda: Oh.

18:07Yaśodānandana: Two copies of Govinda.

18:13Prabhupāda: Reading them and keep them in the library. [Hindi] in Ratha-yātrā Festival in one hour we sold about 24 copies. Although it is very highly priced, eight dollars.

18:40But in America they keep the nice dollar cheaper[?] [Hindi] eight dollar.... Oh he has got.. [Hindi]

19:13Yaśodānandana: I gave him one already. [Hindi conversation] [end]