Lecture for students of a technical institute 2
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Vedic perspectives on physical inclinations
Uh Nakan Namasha Marat uh Sayyidi Mahataya Nakan uh Uh the uh but how it's a book this would come to be a call for me to uh uh you got LGBT. A paka lines, but the polas can makana you have the summit to LGBT in a country.
So this question is that um apart from the four root causes or uh TV behavior, uh are there other factors like say for example, upbringing and then uh um food. Th those those things also uh Yes.
So uh yes definitely there are some other factors. As I said, there are some main causes in the society.
When we're talking about this as a modern phenomenon, but this phenomenon is not modern, it has been always in the society.
Akaraka Punjibak Sbag Nibaputama, the two Adamaku Nibaku Nibagai, then phenomena MGBT in Hasabini S Bagya phenomena saka In Charaka Samhita uh it is said that there are uh Thritiya Prakriti, third nature.
Charatha Samita Charatha Samhita, Ayurvedic text. Dharma Charatha Samhita Samasatu Sastra Ayurveda, uh under the last Kang and Dank Trikiya Prakti at how uh genes in this club gender figure.
And it is said there that this sort of mentality can be caused by specific mentality of husband and wife during the time of conception isana lijaskanbahua uh uh pigurunya mentalitas uh Or could be caused by specific food which the pregnant woman takes.
The inclination of the child very much depend on the behaviour and especially on the food of the pregnant mothermana karaoke samaki punaruhi uh So
Prominence of non-traditional gender behaviors
this sort of influence of this sort of behavior can be caused by this, uh but we're not talking about so to speak quote unquote natural inclination to unnatural sex we're talking about invoked inclination for this behavior mostly.
As I said, this behavior has always been in human society, but it has never been so prominent in human society as nowadays. That's the difference.
And why I was mostly describing why it is it has become so prominent nowadays, and what to do uh to prevent people from this Thank you for the time that you give to me in this chance.
So as we as we know that all those uh remote people, they have very subtle things that are very active mentality. According to you, what is the what is the most effective uh important that you can do to make these other people uh realize that uh their things, these are
these are very well that I'm presenting you.
GBT is too aggressive, the wrong uh prelakity in a car, this is the three ma or no wrong how we uh Uh uh aggressive So they're aggressive and what is the most effective way that we can tell these people who are stubborn and aggressive that what they are doing is wrong?
LGBT is just one manifestation of numerous problems of modern society.
And ultimately all the problems of modern society and not only modern society, the cause of all these problems is ignorance, avidyā. If the problem is avidyā or ignorance, then the solution is vidyā or knowledge the Nijika Masalangala Vidya at Tawa Makasucia Adala Vidya to Pomatawa.
Ultimately the ultimate solution for all this problem is proper education.
It may not answer your question directly because if people are already aggressive and they're aggressively ignorant, they may not listen for education.
That we some joke orang soon, that happy orang Suda Skalalangre Sil, Maka Ruman Hida Bisan, Padam Rekassa We may not be able to change the way somebody because if they are aggressive and they are insisting on their ignorance, what can we do?
but by education we can protect other people from their aggression. People aggression People are prone to take these wrong ideas and experiment with these wrong ideas, so to protect them from this tendency, we have to educate them in the proper knowledge, especially in the proper knowledge of the self and the nature of happiness which we are all seeking for.
And if they are too aggressive, they have to be equally counter-aggressive. Then Dika Mika aggressive, but counter-aggressive, aggressive, and along in the case.
But again, the main target of our propaganda or of our education should be innocent people who are not yet affected by these ideas.
Developing spiritual immunity against delusion
Then the two target innocent harak polos yambilks. And there is another approach to this. Like if there is an infectious disease, then you can give the tablet against the disease, against the virus, or bacteria.
You can give the vaccine before people get the disease or you can develop a very strong immune system and then people will not contract the disease. So this is the three strategies of counteracting the infectious disease.
If somebody is already contracted, give him some tablet. Before that, you can give some inoculation against it, but then you can also develop the immunity immune system against this.
To Dika Kita Show, to Makakita, Moscow. Dika Blue Makakita Bissau. Then Yangai Allah Bhagavanita Mikakan imun to hita say to infectious ya to have the Sala infectious wood.
So if somebody already contracted this disease, you may aggressively try to counteract him.
If somebody is not contracted this disease, you can give him some sort of knowledge which will protect him from this disease from getting contracted by this disease.
But the best way is to develop their immune system that is to give them some experience of spiritual happiness which will be like immune system against all these material diseases. that two attack uh kapal that it mogulai
material and that is only possible if there is
a society of people who live according to higher principles of life and are very happy and if somebody enters this society and feels this higher happiness then his immune system against all these problems will naturally develop.
Uh the nan uh spiritual ini then mutika ma na parakbahadiya da liha ini then kutika a yamai yamai yam burkanala and the Masaka Marasakanalanyam Marasakana Sama Maka in the Kakati Mun Persulan.
So So the immune system against these problems is the experience of happiness of healthy and sane life of a spiritual human being. Yang Senhat Dan Waras Talasciritua. Thank you for the answer. Okay.
But by the other easy one.?
Handling individual cases with compassion
Ya mass and one So what should we do if we have a student like a college student which is transgender and has uh has support from their parents uh what uh they are doing so it's uh from a boy becoming a group.
While as an educator we should educate them regarding this, what should we do? So the transgender has support from parents about that. It's a private affair. If he is doing it, what can we do?
Uh, but uh, the The main problem is not that he is doing this, the main problem is that when he tries to impose these ideas upon others. If he does it, okay, what can we do?
Jika Yam Matu Kanya, Kita isa mahatana, from the kita sora The problem is that usually people when they do this they try to convert everyone else into the same sort of face or belief.
For such people, if we have somebody who is next to us, well we have to behave with them in a very human way, in a nice way. We should not harass them.
But uh we should definitely prevent them from spreading this gospel, I think that's a very important thing, too,
uh to kita halaspala, dana by saramanu shavi, uh didandan uh uh uh We should not we should never increase the hatred in human society. That's not good.
Engaging world leaders on societal issues
That's not a solution to anything else. Introduce my name is Vajana. I'm very great about the topic about L T V T. This is a very great topic. So um uh have a question.
Can Gurus talk about LGBT to every leader's countries, every countries about like a president again. For example, if Guru can talk in with a president, maybe this will be great. And more people listen.
Uh yeah, for example like the president of Indonesia, Prabhupada, if Guru can talk with every president in this country, in every country, I think it's very great for people listen. Thank you I
I am ready to talk with anyone, but who will listen to me I don't think Donald Trump is very eager to meet with me, but he has good people around him.
There is a very nice person, Vivek Ramaswamy, who is one of his close colleagues and he definitely has a very good idea about this.
But regarding president of Indonesia, if you arrange a meeting, I am ready to talk with him.
Actually it's a great concern and I think that the at least the people of the new elect president of America they are very much aware of this and uh hopefully they will do something because uh ultimately it's coming from this uh from this angle from this democratic ideas coming from America ultimately. So let's hope for the best.
Yeah uh the mainly is uh also how to stop uh funders and then LGBT is very important also because after main problem in our self, mind and body and also soul, also big problem is how to lead, how to talk with the leaders in every country.
That's very important I think. If we can if the president can talk with other people, more people in this world, I think uh LGBT will be stopped or less maybe. If not, it's very amazing.
LGBT everywhere in the country, that's very amazing for country. Yeah, thank you very much, Guru. Maybe step by step, yeah. We hope Krishna can help us with connection and other people and other people.
Yeah, must be believed that this now you be really nice. Thank you very much to my second one. I believe that one day we'll be done. Must be yeah. And the Saya kids of the Chakraya and Kipahabyaki. Thank you. Thank you.
Shalama Shyanh and casi because I put my saying. The topics currently discussed something very interesting and inspirative for me.
The problem now is it e isquivalent from the way philosophy and the aspects of ontology, epistemologia actually uh that is the first question.
Then uh what's the first thing this implemented in the uh uh kind of life in this uh modern days yeah that's all that's the question thank you. So what's the first question again? Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Well, I think the question about the first things about the issue of the LGBT. So the question is how and why why and how uh the uh LGBT appears.
If it is from the philosophy and stuff from in particular from the aspects of ontology, epistemology and action. And how it is implemented uh to our model life. Thank you very much.
Regarding LGBT uh uh in Vedic texts regarding preventing it in terms of what's a axiology, anthology and preventing it. Preventing it. Why and how?
Historical rise of rights movements
Well I was trying to explain uh uh why it appeared in the human sort. How it appeared, it appeared historically in the uh
end of 50s or 60s of the last century of the 20th century, when all this scientific studies started appearing here and there, and the gay movement, gay rights movement.
And you know, at that time the human rights movement has become very prominent, and there are different divisions of this human right movement.
And one of the divisions of human rights movement, like women's movement, feminization, this movement, that movement, black flip people movement, and among them this gay uh gay liberation movement or something like this.
Pakimana Muchunya the Yaman Model too, at last the Skipakawula, Nampulwa, Mulay di Dorong issue Wellsamahan Vidorogna Tarkai Ha Assassinus Manusia i Dalmi Tarkaia uh gay then money gay rights movement And
all these movements human right movements they're based on the concept that you know to be happy you have to insist on your rights. You have to somehow rather fight for your rights.
Whereas the proper human civilization is based on the understanding of duty, of dharma, of what you're supposed to do.
If we stress this point of duty then my rights naturally will be fulfilled because everyone will be doing his duty and I'm doing my duty and m my rights are naturally automatically fulfilled.
But instead at one point especially in the Western society in 18th century when the Enlightenment has become very established philosophy people they were starting insisting on these rights and uh we know that the whole American society is based on these rights of people, human rights and so on so forth.
Eighteenth century. 18th century.
Contrast between duty and personal desire
And the uh the about la panlas uh uh uh smakil uh And the underlying idea is that instead of understanding who I am and what am I supposed to do according to my nature?
I am insisting on my right and my right is basically I have a right to do whatever I want to do, whatever my mind wants to do.
uh the sakana pra nasi masi uhana hat ini uhada apayam sa. The idea of duty is based on anthology, on my proper understanding who I am, and what am I supposed to do according to my nature.
But the idea of right is based entirely on the whims which are there in my mind.
Mahaman Tatakwa Juba ittu the Akalo Padasaka uhulu Tantangiri Kita Siapa Kita Sita Lalu Pranan Kita Sega uh kita s that uh happy to but that's kinda uh keenan uh kita city and
tamasima doesn't have any deep ontological uh nature uh when we're talking about the rights.
So when people started talking about the rights it has become completely chaotic the whole society because you know I want to do this, I want to do this, I want to have sex this way, who are you to prevent me from this and so on so forth.
So uh that's the problem of the society which is based not on the duty, not on the dharma, not on the nature, but on the rights which are mostly based on desires.
Maybe Prabhasala, uh sakhata happy to a lampwa, uh haindian uh sank There is dharma and there is kama. Dharma is coming from sattva-guṇa and kama is coming from rajo-guṇa.
So that's the conflict between the concept of dharma or society based on dharma or suffic society and kama or society which is based on desires, a rajasic society. That's it.
The alain dharma, alain Kama, Dharma in the Sakam Padashipa Satvik, the Swat Vika, Dhan Kama in Padasipata Rajasik at Sipat Nasu. The lead uh para uh masanka and the sarak padma yang paraspa sandvikas bar six dhanka uh d uh Yamaraswana Bandasakama Sipatayasakadakuna.
Yes, that's it. Are you doing it again?