Anavrittih shabdat. Lecture 5

Бхакти Вигьяна Госвами · Radhadesh · 2004

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Power of Vedic sound vibration

So we are trying to discuss the importance of Vedic sound and let us glorify the sound, the sound vibration as the most powerful energy of the Lord.

And like for example in Taitiriya Brahmana, I will read now the quote, it is said that vak, oh God as vak with speech or sound vibration is born from Rita.

Rita is the universal law according to which the whole world, the whole creation is working. This is harmony or rhythm. And it is said that Bak is the mother of Vedas and navel of immortality.

In other words, by the work by the sound vibration you will be able to achieve this highest possible state of existence immortality the problem which we have been dealing yesterday, though,

is very severe, and the problem is that because our consciousness is perverted, is inherently perverted, then when we pronounce the Vedic sound, we are not capable of pronouncing it purely.

And because of this impure pronunciation, the sound becomes perverted as well. And instead of changing our desires, it starts serving our desires. So, this is basically the definition of offensive chanting.

The pure sound vibration is supposed to change our perverted desires. But if the sound vibration isn't pure, if it's reflected in our impure consciousness, then it may have an opposite effect.

And that was I was trying to explain yesterday, and I will continue for some time today. There is a very beautiful article published in the

The Harmonist by Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī. The article is called The Word and the Life. Shabdda and the Life of the Conditioned Soul.

And he starts this article by quoting Premavivartha Jagadananda Pandit where Jagadhananda Pandit says that it's not enough to say Gaura I'm yours it's not enough to raise up the hands and say I'm yours.

What one has to do is one has to live the life of Gaura and to see the world as Gaura has seen. In other words, you have to have the same worldview, the same sambandha-jñāna, as Lord Gaurāṅga was teaching.

And you have to live the same lifestyle, the same way as Gaurāṅga was living. In other words, you have to have the same Abideya. And you definitely have to have the same prayojana which Gaurāṅga had.

Then only your world will become powerful.

And he says, he goes on to say, Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī, he goes on to say that if you don't do this, if you don't adopt, if you only adopt the external, an external in our case unfortunately means Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare but being pronounced an external way.

If you don't uh adopt the lifestyle of Gaura, if you don't adopt the his worldview, then your achievement, what you will acquire just by carrying sound. That's what uh Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī says. You will only speak these words by your lips and by your tongue. That's it.

And uh this is offensive. He says, this is a parād, this is the crime against bhakti, and this offenses will ruin your holy name, your chanting, and ruin many many other things.

So we will continue this topic a little bit today.

Meditation on primordial sound Om

I will explain in more details what I started to explain yesterday. But before that, I wanted to make a little experiment with all of you.

We will turn now the sound Ohm, which is the as we said yesterday, primordial sound vibration from which all the Vedas, the Gāyatrī Mantra came from all, then from Gāyatrī Mantra all the Vedas came, all the Vedic sound vibrations, then from the Vedas Vedānta-sūtra came, then from Vedānta-sūtra Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam came and from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam came Krishna līlā. Basically it's all in this sound vibration.

And in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, as I explained, there is an explanation in the 11th skandh of how you should meditate on this sound vibration. So we'll try three times, but in a different way.

First, in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam and the 12th canto, chapter 6, verse 37, it is explained that this sound has double nature is avyakta and svarāt. Avyakta means sound on. Avyakta means that its power is imperceptible. In other words, you're not immediately perceived the power of the Vedic sound.

But Swarat, it's totally independent. It can totally rule your life if you do it properly. So first we just and it is said there that the first vibration was

sounding in the heart, in the sky of the heart of Brahmā, the creator. And some people say that the frequency of the proper ohm is this B1. I don't know if it's correct or not, but at least I heard this, so we can try it.

That's actually by the way, why most of the singers from Vedic tradition they have this vibhāva, their sa as their main tone. So A, U, M, and then this nasalization this bindu at the end. Let's close the eyes and chant it.

And try to perceive what are the changes in the consciousness. So do it second time. There was a famous Swiss scientist who was Hans Jenny who was exploring this correlation between the sound and the form.

And he discovered that the sound OM has the form of Sri Yantra. When somebody pronounces this form properly, then the form of this yantra appears. So what we will do now, we will take the hint of Krishna.

And Krishna in the 11th Canto of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam says that when you chant this mantra, the sound OM, you should see the Lord within your heart. And the heart is like a lotus. It's a lotus flower.

And the Lord is there standing on this lotus flower. And you should try to see the Lord at the end of the sound. He says, nādānte, I am at the end, nādānte, I am at the end of the sound.

And Śrīdhara Svāmī explaining this verse, he says that praṇava oṅkāra consists of five parts: A, U, M, then this bindu nasal sound, and then finally nada.

Beyond this bindu, beyond this very subtle vibration, there is even more subtle vibration, the fifth part. And there at nāda you will meet the Lord at the very end of the sound.

He's there, he's waiting for you, he's ready to shake hands with you. It's just you should do it very properly, and it is also explained that this sound it goes up Krishna explains this.

It goes up through your spinal cord. The A starts here. When you pronounce A, it's in the stomach. Then U is vibrating here near your Ājñā chakra. Then M and nasalization is vibrating here in your Sahasrāra chakra.

And then nāda is up there in the spiritual world. So let's try it again with this concentration, with this understanding that

this is actually the passage through which we can meet the Lord. And at the end of the sound, somewhere there, the Lord is waiting for you. Did you meet the Lord?

See, that's why he says that he's there and very significantly, and it is also explained by Lord Krishna, and this actually should be the result of our chanting Lord Krishna says when you chant properly, your hearing capacity will be cut off of all external sounds.

Did you notice?

Internal sound meditation and spiritual stages

That if you chant properly, this is such a powerful vibration that all the external sounds which constantly bombard our consciousness, which constantly bring it down to the material level, they will be cut off. You will not hear them anymore. You will be there.

So we will do the third changing, third exercise, and this time we will do it internally. For that you have to take off your glasses if you have that. You have to put don't do it now.

You have to put your thumbs in the ears. And then you have to close your eyes like this. Don't do it now.

So you have to really pluck your ears and your eyes and then by chanting you have to really try to hear the sound internally because it is said that this sound, the sound of Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra, is resounding within your heart. It's there within your heart.

And the yogis who do this yoga meditation or sound meditation, they hear the sound and I will explain what they will hear and what we are supposed to hear by doing this. In the right ear. So let's try to do the same.

The same all with the ears plugged and inside and seeing how with the vibration our life force or our consciousness is being elevated to the highest possible state in the first dimension When

you stop chanting, did you hear a sound? Huh? Try it again, not now, later on, on your own. If you do it properly, you will very clearly hear a very high sound in your right ear.

And the yogis who say this, who practice this, they say that through this meditation, gradually the sound changes.

If you start this meditation, it's something like you know, they say it's like the sound chini, chini, chini, chini, I don't know what it means, but chini, whatever. Some kind of very high sound is there.

But then they say that by this meditation you will be able to go step by step. In Hamsa Upanishad, the stages are explained. First, you hear this chini-chini sound, and then you hear bell. You hear the bell how it rings.

It's very high sound of the bell. Then you hear konch, shankha. Then you hear veena. The sound of Veena. Then you hear very familiar sound. Guess what? Karatas. Then you hear Karatas.

And then after cymbals you hear flute. Whose flute it will be? Christmas flute. You will hear the sound of flute. But that's not all.

It is said, and it's Hamsa Upanishad, it's one of Yoga Upanishads, has nothing to do with Caitanya Mahāprabhu's tradition. They say that after that you will hear the sound of Mridanga. And after that what you will hear?

You will hear how Caitanya Mahāprabhu is chanting. Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna, Krishna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Hare Rama. It's all dead. It's all in the spiritual world.

It's this vibration is constantly going on. This eternal kirtan is going on, kirtan of glorification of the holy name. It's there and it's in the sound and it's in our practice. We just have to have courage to enter it.

Persistence in practice and divine presence

We have to have the determination and today I will a little bit speak about this point. Which qualities we have to have to achieve this state. And this handout which I gave is about this. So yesterday I spoke about this

particular problem which is very much familiar for us and I quoted this verse from Svetashvatar Upanishad which makes this statement that one has to vibrate this sound again and again and again.

Despite the power of the sound, despite of the immense power of the sound, this practice has to be repeated. And it's a hard labor.

It's a sacrifice, it's ongoing, continuing sacrifice which has to be done very persistently for years and years in a row because of the perverted consciousness which we have and therefore

it is compared with the rubbing of the sticks and then the then as I said there will be a lot of smoke and I'm sure you all experienced this. A lot of smoke is going on when we're chanting. But there is no fire.

But then the first spark of the fire will appear. And this first spark of the fire is called spurti. Spurti means sudden appearance of the Lord.

Or it may not be as the Lord Himself, but it may be this very exalted, elevated feeling which you all of a sudden have.

And I'm sure you all have this experience, especially in the beginning, when you're not so advanced in devotional service and when you're not a senior devotee, you're less offensive because of this. And therefore Krishna is more merciful.

Therefore, Krishna gives this immediate experience of Spurti. Spurti means you may not see the Lord as He is, but you may feel His presence.

You may feel a very elevated and very wonderful state of consciousness or state of bliss, which is there in Lord's association. So this first spark or little sparks which they are from the struggle, they're there.

And the Lord mercifully He like kind of lifts the curtain which separates us or our consciousness from Him.

So then I quoted this uh sutra from Vedānta-sūtra which I also quoted in this handout āvṛttir asaṅkṛd-upadeśāt and that because of the Upadesh because of the repeated, repeated repeated in the Vedas that you have to do it again and again and again. Shravanam Kirtanam Smaranam, you have to do it, you have to do it again and again and again.

Obstacles resulting from offensive chanting

And uh uh liṅgāc ca liṅgāc ca means also because of the sign. Because and Baladeva Vidyābhūṣaṇa explains what it means. It is understood that repetition is necessary for the conditioned souls who have committed offenses.

And I gave the list of five obstacles which appear in our consciousness if we chant improperly. And these five obstacles are described by Jīva Gosvāmī in his Bhakti-sandarbha in Anuccheda 153, if somebody is interested.

And I gave the Sanskrit names, Sanskrit classification there and translation for this.

And I will try to dwell a little more on this because this is very important to understand what offenses are and how why by our sound or by our prayer, by our attempt to address the Lord becomes offensive and therefore becomes powerless.

Because of this offenses they, don't really bring about the result which we expect from this.

So if we chant offensively, and offensiveness means basically, as I explained yesterday that by our lips and by our tongue we say something but really our mind is somewhere else and our desires are somewhere else we're not really in harmony. We're not really there.

We're approaching the Lord. You know, we're calling the Lord. Oh my Lord Krishna, come. And he comes in the form of his sound vibration. And we turn away.

You know, we call somebody. Hey, hey, hey, Haribov, Prabhu, you know, and Prabhu comes, and then when he comes, you immediately turn away and go somewhere else. Will he be offended or not?

I recently had this experience very clearly. I had I understood how the offensive chanting how the inattentive chanting means offensive chanting.

We had a little meeting about some important subject matter and, there were different devotees there. And there was a group of devotees, and there was one devotee who is kind of you know, he's junior.

He is there; he played active role. And then you know at one point we were discussing something and I started speaking.

And of course, when you speak it's definitely something very important, right? You know, everyone has to hear this. There's no doubt about it.

And then this guy, you know, who is junior, who's much junior than me, you know, he's just got initiation, this and that. So his mobile phone rang, and he took up this mobile phone and got up and walked out.

When I started speaking, my goodness, I was so offended. I was so I couldn't continue speaking.

So offended I was because you know because I started speaking, you know, and actually it's interesting because he called this meeting. This guy called this meeting. I came. I wanted to speak.

And at the moment I started speaking, he walked out to speak with somebody on the phone. So but isn't it the same we do with Krishna? We do exactly the same thing with Krishna.

We call Krishna Krishna and he, you know, he says, My dear devotee, I was waiting for you for so many years when you will call me and he runs well probably he doesn't run anymore because he knows what's gonna happen and we immediately turn away from him and we say that I don't care.

So this is exactly called crookedness. Or quotidian, duplicity, or when you're not sincere, it basically means insincerity or crookedness means you say something and you think about something else. Isn't it?

This is what duplicity is. You're saying something, but you think completely different things. And when we say Krishna and think completely different things, it is duplicity.

It is something you know we're calling Krishna at the same time, Krishna is not that important for us. We have thousand things which are more important to be in our consciousness at this very moment.

So this is the first thing, and therefore Jiva Goswami explains that this crookedness becomes reinforced by offensive chanting. We are crooks, we are duplicitous, we all have this problem because

Why were we crooks? Because you know because once we wanted to be the Lord, right? You know, I'm the Lord. This is the first, this is the original scene of the living entity.

Like these Christians, they have this very peculiar concept of original sin, which somehow or other Adam committed, and we all suffer for this original sin. Very very fair judgment. But it's not it's not Adam, it's we.

We have committed this sin and this sin basically means you know in this in this myth, in this story in the Bible, that is very clearly said that the crooked mind crawled to Adam and said, do you want to be like God?

And Adam said, yeah, sure, sure. Sure enough, yes, that's what I want. So this is this is this crooked mentality which becomes even more crooked, even more difficult when we chant offensively. And then what happens next?

It's also very interesting.

Because if we are not careful about committing aparadhas, if we're not really attentive and if we're not really trying to bring all our consciousness in into this very holy and sacred process of chanting of the holy

name, then the next effect is a-śraddhā, you become atheistic. Why? It's also very understandable. You know, you're offending God left and right. And you know, nothing happens, right?

You know, the you're not going to hell and you know and you really start doubting is is he there or not? You know, I'm offending him. You have this offensive mentality. It's actually also very significant.

This offenses in in Judaism in Jewish tradition, how this importance of avoiding the offences against the holy name is stressed so much there because it is said that you should not pronounce the word,

the name of God, which is not different from God Himself. It's not different from God Himself. You shouldn't neglectful mood. Because by doing this, you become atheist. By doing this, you lose faith in God.

Because God withdraws Himself from the Holy Name.

And you know nothing happens and you don't feel there is God and you know and because nothing happens, you know, you you lose your faith. And because you lose your faith, you cannot take shelter of God anymore. You cannot take shelter in uh in the face of him. So you have to take shelter in the threefold things of this world.

In TV, you know you have to engage your consciousness somewhere. So therefore, you know, you you somehow or other develop this strange attachment, and we can see that after so many years of consistent

namaparādha sincere bhakti-yogi, who has become a senior devotee paramahaṁsa parivrājakācārya, all of a sudden puts a TV set in his fancy office and secretly starts watching TV there or whatever else can happen, you know.

And this is uh this list is there in in the handout which I gave to you, it is said bhagavan-niṣṭhā cyāvakāḥ, viṣvantara abhiniviṣṭa Vesha. All of a sudden you become abhiniviṣṭa. Abhiniviṣṭa means absorbed.

Absorbed in the things which bhagavan-niṣṭhā cyāvakāḥ, which totally destroy your faith, your firm faith in in Bhagavan. So this is uh this is what is going on and that uh because

of this you become also śaithilyam. Śaithilyam means lazy, śaithilyam means uh you become slap-dash in your devotional practices.

Your practice instead of bringing you something it becomes a very tedious uh kind of thing, very boring and because it's so boring you know who wants to do it anyway so you're doing it just because you because you are so advanced but but you can't stand it anymore You think my goodness what is going on?

So this is this is what it is and it's if we are not careful about this, this is a very natural progression or shall we say degradation, very natural degradation.

And it's it's interesting that because this chanting of the holy name it kind of you know calms down your mind. It in one sense it stimulates some thought process.

Like Ravindra Svarūpa, he explains, Prabhu explains the episode story which was which happened with him. He brought his university professor first time to the temple.

And the university professor started chanting in the kirtan. And after that, Ravīndra Svarūpa Prabhu was amazed. He's chanting so enthusiastically. So he asked the professor, how did you like it? Did you like this?

And the professor said, Yeah, this is this is this is glorious. When I was chanting, so many far-out thoughts appeared in my mind and I started thinking about it. This was so nice. Did you notice the same thing with you?

You're speaking with Krishna. You're calling Krishna, you're calling him by name. You say, my dear Lord, please come to me. And then so many far-out things appear in your mind.

And you have your little gizmo to, you know, to record this for the eternity so that your generations after you will not forget this and you write it down and so many different things are there.

So this is this is how it's uh this progression of degradation is going on from crookedness to facelessness, from facelessness to this absorption and the things which are detrimental to devotional service.

From there to slackness in devotional service. And finally, the most ironic thing, the crown jewel of your devotional career.

I'm sorry, it's it's a mistake here. It's written Chwabhakti, but it should be Svabhakti. Svabhakti Adi Krita Manitvam. Manitwam means pride. Bhakti Adi Krita, all your achievements.

You become very, very proud because of your achievements. Your so-called achievements in Bhakti. Because what is pride? Pride actually manifestation of that something is lacking in us.

We have to really compensate our we're not honest enough to admit that we are failure in devotional service, right?

And because we are not honest, we have to really, you know, we have to somehow or other compensate this defect of failure and we start enumerating and making a long list

you know like I was in office of one devotee and he had the whole wall in his office uh full of different you know this you know how you say certificates and uh you know different uh you know whatever different prizes which he achieved uh which he received for his achievements and devotional service.

And it's he's just, you know, he's sitting and chanting and looking and this, you know, this and this and this.

All these diplomas which you get, you know, this is this certificate, you did this and you you know you donated that much here and you did that and you I am a great devotee of the Lord.

So and by the way, uh you know what is the Sanskrit name for diploma? It's upādhi. And

it is said by Rūpa Gosvāmī that pure devotional service, sarvopādhi-vinirmuktam, tat-paratvena nirmalam, you have to relinquish or give up all your diplomas. You should not try to hide behind the diplomas which you have, behind all the prizes and everything which you achieved.

You should really strive for the pure bhakti.

Sincerity illustrated through Duryodhana and Krishna

Upādhi is not that important. So, and while explaining this to Gosvāmī, he gives an example, a very drastic example from Mahābhārata. He says that look what happened in Mahābhārata.

In Mahābhārata Krishna came to Hastināpura. And before Krishna came, Duryodhana was his best friend, Shakuni, he devised a glorious reception for Krishna.

You know, they thought about the best things which Krishna would love. They would put the dancing girls, and because Krishna loves dancing girls, right? You know, he's there and went down, he's always dancing.

So they put the best dancing girls all over the way, you know, to please Krishna. And then, of course, what else Krishna loves? Krishna loves when somebody praises him, right?

So Duryodhana, when Krishna came, he started praising Krishna and saying, you know, my dear Krishna, you're the best, you're the glorious.

And then he got the best cooks from the whole empire, the best cooks, the cooking, the best possible dishes for Krishna.

And Duryodhana said, my dear Krishna, please come and take this wonderful meal which we prepared just for you. What did Krishna say? Forget it. Forget it. I'm not going to you.

There is a banana peel in Vidura's house which is waiting for me. This is what I'm going to take. I am not taking this stuff which you prepare. And the funny thing, this is not the most interesting thing.

The most interesting thing is the reaction of Duryodhana. Duryodhana, he became really offended. He said, You have no right, Krishna. I'm offering to

you with love and devotion, see so many dancing girls and praises and meal. Krishna said, Forget it, you know. Banana peel is better. So this is what Jīva Gosvāmī quotes.

He said that you offer something to Krishna, but if you're not offered sincerely, wholeheartedly, if your whole consciousness, whole consciousness is not there in your offering, if you are not doing this really for the sake of Krishna.

If you really have some other goal in your mind, if you really want to achieve something through Krishna, because of Krishna or by Krishna, then it's offensive.

And because it's offensive, it doesn't bring the desired result, and Krishna just doesn't take it. He does not accept the offering.

So this main thing is crookedness, crookedness in the heart, which we have to deal with and which we have to be very clear about. That we are cetas and we have to deal with it.

And therefore he quoted Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī, a very beautiful saying. Siddhanta Saraswati, very beautiful saying. He said that Vaishnavatan means Sharalata. Saralata means simplicity.

Saralata means sarala sarala means straightforward. Sarala means outgoing. Saralata means you're very straightforward.

So also Jiva Goswami quotes in Jiva Goswami quotes in Bhakti Sandarbha also very interesting verse from Vishnu Dharma Purana.

And this verse says that one who is crooked, this is the problem with the crookedness. And it seems almost like a vicious circle.

First statement there in this verse of Vishnu Dharma Purana, it is said that if you're crooked, your attempt to be honest will have 100 impediments. 100 impediments, 100 obstacles on your way.

100 obstacles will stand on your way if you if you're crooked but you want to be honest, right? It means that we want to be honest, but there are so many reasons why we should not be honest, right?

Which our crooked intelligence will provide us with 100 reasons you will get to not to become honest. You know, you know what will people say about you?

You know, if you will be straightforward, people will think you're really simple and crazy and uh you know uh and they will say you're so simple and this is Mahaparada and you know so many other things will be there.

But this is not please hear listen attentively what what is the first line. Then it said, and if you are crooked and you want to perform austerities, there will be 1,000 obstacles on your way.

In other words, if you're crooked and you are and you want to be determined and you want to do something which is not really pleasing for your senses, you will have 1,000 obstacles for this.

You will try to fast on ekadashi and the mind will provide you with one thousand reasons why you should not do this because it's really crazy, you know, only crazy fanatical people do this and so on and so forth.

But this is not the worst. Then he said, and this verse says, if you are crooked and you want to love Krishna. There will be 10,000 impediments on your way. 10,000 obstacles will stand there on your way.

Essential qualities for devotional service

So this is basically this is the uh way to stress how important it is to be sharala to be very simple to be very very honest with oneself in the first place and to be very very, honest and loyal to the practices which we are doing. Because honesty also means honesty towards the practice which we do. If we do some practice, we have to do it wholeheartedly.

Our whole heart should be there.

So what Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura says, and I will I will not be able to say many more things which I wanted to say, but I will say a few things and then I will mainly have little time for questions.

So Bhaktivinoda says that for Bhajana, and I quote this here, this is from his article in Sajana Toshani Shaikhiliam. Bhaktivinoda says that you need only two qualities for bhajan. Only two qualities, nothing else.

One is this Sarvata, which means simplicity, honesty, which means you're really not pretending to be anything you're not. You're really what you are and you're trying to be uh in front of God all the time.

Because God is seeing you and you have to really develop this consciousness that you are in front of him and whatever you're doing, you're doing in front of him or in front of your spiritual master.

And another one is determination. Determination means this dridata means you're determined. It means that if you really want to do something, you do it. If you really want to achieve Krishna, you have to do it.

You know, like in the Bṛhadāraṇyaka Upaniṣad, ātmā vā are draṣṭavyaḥ, you have to see the Lord. You must see the Lord. You have to achieve this goal. So these two qualities are there, I listed it here.

And then he also there is a very beautiful article in the same Sajanatoshini magazine which is called Bhakti Pratira Parada, which means the crime or the offense against bhakti, against bhakti itself.

And in this article, Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, he is explaining what is what is the offense, what is the nature of offense. He quotes a verse from Caitanya Bhāgavata.

And in this verse of Caitanya Bhāgavatam, Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura says, he quotes Lord Caitanya. Lord Caitanya he says to the devotees who assembled in front of him during his Mahāprakāśa līlā.

You know, Mahāprakāśa līlā is the manifestation of Lord Caitanya's glory, his aiśvarya, and at the same time manifestation of his mercy.

In his Mahāprakāśa līlā, Lord Caitanya was giving, you know, whatever anyone would ask, you know. Anyone would ask to him and said, please give me bhakti. Lord Chaitanya said, take it, take it, take it.

And somebody will say, give bhakti to my auntie. And Lord Chaitanya will say, yes, yes, your auntie will have bhakti for the rest of eternity. And you know, Lord Chaitanya was giving this very freely.

And then Śrīvāsa Ṭhākura appeared in front of Lord Caitanya and Śrīvāsa Ṭhākura said,

You know, I I I can understand everything. I cannot understand one thing, why Mukunda is not here. And why you're not giving anything to Mukunda who is such a beautiful singer.

Lord Chaitanya said, he is an offender. I don't want to see him. And he will never see my face. This is, as Sachinandan Maharaj ki jaya, Lord Chaitanya said he is an offender, he committed an offense.

And then he explained, and because of this offense, I will not see him. So, what is this offense which Lord Chaitanya is talking about?

He said, this offense is that you know he goes to one Sangha and he speaks about Yoga Vasista. Then he goes with devotees and he chants and he has the you know straw in his mouth and he's so humble.

And then he goes somewhere else and they speak about something else and he also speaks about something else. So there are two understandings or understanding of two offenses here.

But the main thing is that offense in the mind of Lord Caitanya here is that you have some other goal. That in your mind, in your consciousness, something else is more important than bhakti.

This is this is the essence of bhakti-prati-aparadha, the aparadha that something else within your consciousness is more important than bhakti and then relationship with the Lord.

And this is the root cause of all other offenses and this is the root cause of our faulty or insincere chanting. And therefore Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura gives the list of qualities which counteract this aparadha.

And the most important quality is ekantata.

Role of spiritual master in pure chanting

Ekantata means you have only one goal, one aim, and one prayojana.

So there is a lot of things which one can also say but I have to finish because my time is over and I will finish at this point I wanted to say more things specifically about the role of spiritual master and how actually we get all these things from the spiritual master.

But I'll just uh conclude by saying that in reality, this little seminar which I wanted to provide is very closely connected with the seminar of His Holiness Sachinandan Maharaj.

Also quite closely corroborated with the seminar which HH Indradyumna Swami is giving about appreciation of Śrīla Prabhupāda and about how beautiful point how we can get the culture that we can get the culture from somebody who cares about us, somebody who is near and near to us.

So we can get rid of all these problems, and that's the only way to get rid of all these problems if we have very close and vital and not formal relationship with the spiritual master. By the way of this connection, we can get all the qualities which are required

to make our chanting pure, we can get the proper consciousness, proper determination, and everything else which is necessary for us to achieve this elevated state of uh pure consciousness which is which can only be achieved by the chanting of the holy name.

Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare, Hare Rāma Hare Rāma Rāma Rāma Hare Hare. But chanting it properly. And this way the sound will liberate will, will give you the highest possible goal.

And in this way, you know we will achieve all our other desires will be achieved automatically.

So I'm really sorry there is again no time for questions, and I didn't even speak half of what I was supposed to speak about different aspects of these things.

But in any case, please forgive me for my deficiencies in this very easy. Thank you.