Bhagavad-gita 7.24. Personal Existence of the Lord
Bhakti Vijnana Goswami · Srirangam · 2020
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Invocation and introductory prayers
Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya, Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. Nārāyaṇaṁ namaskṛtya naraṁ caiva narottamaṁ devīṁ sarasvatīṁ vyāsaṁ tato jayam udīrayet. dato chaya mudiraya I
will read seven twenty-four. Twenty-four. Seven twenty-four. Because Srila Prabhupada quotes in the purport Sri Yamun Acharya, who is the great Acharya in Sri Ranjam, the predecessor
of Sri Ramanujacharya, therefore, in his honor I will read this bookport and verse, verse and bookport. Aviaktam, avviakam, Vyaktim, Apanam, Apatnam, manyate, mam, abudhaya, param, bavam, ajananto, mama, avvyayam
Avyaktam vyaktim āpannaṁ Vyakta Vyaktimapannam, Avyaktam Yaktima Pannam manyate mām abuddhayaḥ paraṁ bhāvam ajānanto mamāvyayam anuttamam. mamavia manutam Mamma Vyayamanu Vyaktam Vyaktima Pannam Manyate Mamabudeha
parambavam ajanando jamando, mamadya manutama, Avyaktam Avyaktam non manifested. Yeah. Don't draw that. Vyaktim Vyaktivam. Vyakti Twam. Very clear. Upandam I think your microphone doesn't work. Many Yanak in the left. Mam. Yannight.
Abu daya. Siddhari. Siddhayo. Param Parama Bham Bavam Gilayay, Gilayayay, Ajananta, Ajnanta, Ariyama, Ariyama, Mama Mama Yana Aviam Aviyam Adiba Flat Aiva Anun Tamam We have we have the day we have the day Anintelligent men
who do not know me perfectly think that I, the Supreme Personality of God, Krishna, was impersonal before and have now assumed this personality. Due to their small knowledge, they do not know my higher nature, which is imperishable and supreme.
In the Pakova Ariyada, Ariba, Mani the Will, Krishna in a Panam Bharavakusha Bhagavana Muda Aruba Bhagavad Givda Hum the Guru Poor poor by Srila Prabhupada.
Those who are worshippers of demigods have been described as less intelligent persons and here the impersonal is similarly described. Lord Krishna in his personal form is here speaking before Arjuna and still due to ignorance and personalists argue that the Supreme Lord ultimately has no form.
Ajana Mundu and the Tani Putha Human India Pasic Mundula Podium, Arya main Gandhata, Yelab, Umay and Kurum Variya and Great Badiana. Yamunacharya, the great devotee of the Lord and the disciplic succession of Ramanuja Acharya has written a very appropriate verse in this connection.
Mahavaktarana Yuna Charya is some of the mama making Burton Hilda Tvamshi Larupacharitai Parama Prakrishtai Satvaven Sasat tikataya, prabalishastri, daiva, paramarta vidamatischa, Nava Sura Prakrita Yah Prabhavanti Bodum.
My dear Lord, devotees like Vyasa Deva and Narada know you to be the personality of Godhead.
By understanding different Vedic literatures, one can come to know your characteristics, your form and your activities and one can thus understand that you are the supreme personality of Godhead. But those who are in the modes of passion and ignorance, the demons, the non-devotees, cannot understand you.
They are unable to understand you however experts such non-devotees may be in discussing Vedanta and the Upanishads, the other Vedic literatures, it's not possible for them to understand the personality of Godhead.
Our Yara, Vedam, Upanishad, Matrum, either a weather, no, we put it, our development, thermai satiya, you know, parano push my word with the Sadi In
the Brahma Samhita is stated that the personality of Godhead cannot be understood simply by study of Vedanta literature. Only by the mercy of the Supreme Lord can the personality of the Supreme to be known.
Therefore in this verse it is clearly stated that not only are the worshippers of the demigods less intelligent, but those non-devotees who are engaged in Vedanta and speculation on Vedic literature without any tinge of true Krishna consciousness are also less intelligence and for them it is not possible to understand God's personal nature.
Mahawani Vishnu Yalama Uyana Krishna Kunati Satan in the Vedanta Mathuana the Yuta, Postal, Sikra Pari in the Swami, Venivan.
Persons who are under the impression that the absolute truth is impersonal are described here as a Buddha, which means those do not know those who do not know the ultimate feature of the absolute truths.
In the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam it is stated that supreme realization begins from the impersonal Brahman and then rises to the localized super soul, and the ultimate world is the absolute truth, is the personality of God.
Paramani Patiya Buddhagh, Adua Brahmanit, Paramatmani, Anar Kurovki, Yuri Sul, Bhagavan, in the Shrimad Bhagavad King, Pura Puddhi
Modern impersonalists are still less intelligent for they do not even follow their great predecessor, Shankaracharya, who has specifically stated that Krishna is the Supreme Personality of God.
And personally therefore do not know the Supreme Truth, think Krishna to be the only son of Devaki and Vasudva, or a prince, or a powerful living entity.
This is also condemned in in the Bhagavad-gītā 9-11. Only the fools regard me as an ordinary person.
The fact is that no one can understand Krishna without rendering devotional service and without developing Krishna consciousness.
The Bhagavatam also confirms this Athapita Deva Padambujadvaya Prashada Dishanu Krahita Evahi Janati Tatvam Bhagavan Mahimno Nachanya Eko Pichiram Vichinwan.
My Lord, if one is favored, even by the slight trace of the mercy of your Lotus feet, he can understand the greatness of your personality.
But those who speculate don't understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead are unable to know you, even though they continue to study the Vedas for many years.
One cannot understand the Supreme Personality of God with Krishna or his form, quality or name simply by mental speculation or by discussing Vedic literature. One must understand him by devotional service.
When one is fully engaged in Krishna consciousness, beginning by chanting the Mahā-mantra Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.
Then only can one understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Krishna Budavin Vuranamama, Gripuramudha, Varama Burja Bamani, Vitri Budamri.
Non-devotee in personally think that Krishna has a body made of this material nature and that all his activities, his form and everything are Maya.
This impersonalists are known as Māyāvādīs. They do not know the ultimate truth. Ariapanas, you are the U may Ariya. Aviaktam Vyakti Mapanaman Yate Mamabudyaha Param Bhava Majananto Mama Vyayamanunta Mam.
Unintelligent men who do not know me perfectly think that I, the Supreme Personality of God and Krishna, was impersonal before and have now assumed this personality due to their small knowledge, they do not know my higher nature which is imperishable and supreme.
Namau Vishnu Padara Krishna Krishtaya Bhuttaya Srimade Bhaktividanta Swam dynamite, namaste, sweat, ne pracha, nerd, su navah, pašan, we should have. Krishna Chaitanya Prabhupada Navasyadva Srivastati Bora Bhattaminda.
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama
Refuting the impersonal view of God
Hhareari Ajana Lambi Bujana Bhavadaka Santhipanaita Pitaruka Malay Taksha Vishwam Bharu Vija Ru Dharma Vandai Jagandriya Karukamata prays mama chamampra sutram siva da ki la sapti dara sma, anjam bhadi pra nandamu bhama e puli sha.
So in this verse, Shri Krishna himself very clearly says that those who think that I am the person which you see now in front of your eyes didn't come from some impersonal something.
The usual understanding which is very widespread among many people who are trying to follow the spiritual path is that ultimately God is impersonal.
He is non-manifest, but sometimes he does manifest in front of you, but this is all just sort of illusion. So Narva Munway Samayuru Sam and personal theyists give very beautiful example in this regard.
They say that water is everywhere. If we take water here, this is water, but water is also in the in the air. But then when it becomes cold, the water becomes takes the shape. Some snow is there, snowflakes is there.
So the dati is the Puriya and the Tani But that's not natural. Especially here in India it's not natural. Water is mostly in the form of gas. Only very rarely it condenses and becomes snowflakes, takes a proper shape.
Sometimes you see these big uh blocks of ice. But that's not that's not natural state of water. The natural state of water it's everywhere, it's spread, it doesn't have any form or shape.
So nice that you are tiny yellow, yet one of the course you know all the impersonalists they come from India and in India water is always in this impersonal uh without form or shape.
But in Russia it's always in the form of snow so So therefore there is so many Mayavadis in India and so many devotees in Russia nowadays. So But evil buttons. No, but in any case it's a joke.
But uh uh that's what they say. They say that the normal st normal state of God or spirit is without form, but sometimes He takes a form. So if you go to the, but Krishna is very clear here.
He says, avyaktām vyaktim āpannam manyante mām abuddhayaḥ,
He says, according to my knowledge, those who think, those who think that I, me, mum, who think that I, I was before, uh, non-manifest, without any form or shape, and now I came and took this formal shape, and my understanding, they are just a buddha, they have no buddhi.
So in the, uh, still in the infantri uh, kṛṣṇaṇāmaṁ guru bhrātrā arūpā puruṣiṇā guru mata. He says these people paraṁ bhāvam ajānanto they don't know the, the real paramhavam uh, means the supreme existence.
And usually, again, people think that the supreme existence is without form. The form, the something which has form, is uh of a lesser quality or lesser category. So not weir the day. Guru gurur yaḥ samārādhyaḥ.
But Krishna says no, they don't know the reality, they don't know that me, I am, is avyayam anuttamam, that I am beyond the modes of material nature. I am the highest and I am inexhaustible.
Influence of modes on impersonalism
Parama, what make the like none if the bauddhika year cake apart the other muna.
And Śrīla Prabhupāda of course explains that this misunderstanding about the nature of God is due to influence of the modes of ignorance and passion.
He says that those people who have this tamasika tendencies, the those people who have this or Tamasic or Rājasic tendencies, they ultimately want to reject or to deny the personal existence of the Lord.
So rajo-guṇa, tamo-guṇa, yugam, yan, agāra, yugam, kṛṣṇa-raya, guru-mayāna and ultimately it's because of envy.
Even in our, uh, experience we can understand that it's very difficult to relate to somebody as an individual, as a personality. And, uh, if, if we become envious of somebody, we, we don't want for this person to exist as a, as a person.
So now our community numbers. Like when somebody offends us, uh, what do we do? We just look at this person as if he doesn't exist, as if he is not a person. So Namayala the Nukha Partivitan, And
it's a very big offense if somebody you know comes to you and doesn't see you, looks through you, uh you know, pretends that you don't exist. It it's very it's very painful.
When we want to offend somebody, we just go past him without even noticing him. So you don't exist. So ultimately this impersonal attitude uh either to somebody who is a person or to the Supreme Personality of God is uh So
in the Aruba Param Envadi and Krishna made it to Puriya Paramaya Vadua Purya Radh, Adi Radha Massa Mara When somebody comes to us, pays a basis, says Hare Krishna or good evening or good day, we feel very good.
So I'm only what I mean, Hare Krishna Sami We feel like you know our heart opens up and we want to say something good to him and this is how the persons interact with each other.
But when we are bitter, when we don't like somebody, we just, you know, neglect somebody, you don't exist. And that's ultimately what Mayawadis say, they come to Lord and they say no, you don't exist.
So Krishna is Krishna me, the Vodaki lay in the U are This is illusion. You know, they come to the Lord and say, oh, this is illusion. If somebody comes to you and say you are Maya, you are illusion. You will feel very bad.
And when somebody says something bad to you, you usually want to say something bad to him, right?
And because these people say this to Krishna, Krishna says the same to them, he says they are Buddha, they are very dull headed. So Naruvaya Krishna Dhavadai Yilla existence the yellow Krishna Davara Sri Right.
Krishna himself says, Yayathamamprabajanta bhajanyaham, how uh somebody reciprocates with me, how somebody relates to me, I reciprocate to him. So Krishna Ray Subhila and if
somebody comes to Krishna and says, Oh Krishna you don't exist and tells this to Krishna, Krishna says, okay, uh you don't exist either for me.
Three stages of spiritual realization
So ultimately as Krishna says this is all manifestation of our Abhidya ignorance. And Srila Prabhupada explains in the purport that to understand the personal aspect of the Lord one has to be very intelligent.
uh personality group but this area. The impersonal realization is a spiritual experience in one sense. So Krishna Rubati and the We don't deny that you can uh understand God as impersonal.
It's a certain stage of spiritual understanding or spiritual experience. Like recently I read experience of one man who explains what happened to him? Recently I read somebody was explaining what happened to him.
One man he was uh he was very depressed, he was very fearful, you know, there were some panic attacks, he was in this very strange state of consciousness when you're very morose and you see no future. It's everything is very bad for you.
depressing. And then he said at uh at night all of a sudden he woke up and it was very dark around him.
And even if you are in a normal consciousness, if all of a sudden you wake up during the night, uh it's little you know, you you feel little fearful.
So even Arjuna, you know, and when he woke up during the night it was he was in complete panic. He thought you know some ghost is attacking me, some thief is coming. He he became trembling.
He came in this very strange, agitated state of consciousness where he wanted just to basically commit suicide. It was so bad for him.
And then all of a sudden his state of consciousness without any visible reason changed. He lost his sense of personal identity. All of a sudden his ego disappeared.
And he kind of felt that he is everywhere and he exists everywhere and he is eternal. And his fear completely disappeared, evaporated, and he became very blissful.
He kind of felt that I exist every you know he came to this complete frantic, very you know panic state of consciousness and because he couldn't tolerate it any longer, he was transported into another realm where he felt the reality. I exist and I'm one with everything and everything is nice and I'm eternal.
So on the I am carrying the multimetric and he came and the electricity wire. Actually he became one of this Mayawadi Gurus. The name of this man is Eckhart Tolle. If you go on Google you will see Eckhart Tolle, he's quite
big, you know, and he's teaching this impersonal philosophy. You don't have to fear, you have to be here and now and you're one with everything, you know, so but what I want to say is that it's a real experience.
So we can actually He really felt relief because before he was really fearful and all of a sudden he felt some glimpse of reality.
And this this glimpse of reality, this little spark of reality, was enough to make him completely uh happy So,
you can see that the whole life changed, he doesn't feel any depression, he doesn't feel like committing suicide, he's teaching everyone, you know, how you should become like this.
Characteristics of impersonal Brahman realization
And you know he's he's writing books. So and therefore Prabhupada here says that the realization of this impersonal the stage of realization of this impersonal reality uh it's not bad, but it's a very beginning stage.
So in the Avara the Ulanya Udaker
When we have false ego it means the false understanding of my identity, I am this material body, I have to lord it over, I have to make it uh in this life, I have to become successful, I have to become happy, I have to enjoy in this life. Then this is called material experience.
So now you the what are the what are the things And this material existence is very miserable. Because it it is uh it's being done in the background of fear. We're always fearful.
I will die, I will become old, I will become useless, I will become diseased, and you know so many things may happen with me.
That as soon as we turn away from reality, Vishada Peta Sya Viparios, we forget about our spiritual identity and immediately fear comes into our heart.
Śrīla Prabhupāda writes in the introduction to Bhagavad-gītā that our very existence in the atmosphere of non-existence. That's the main problem. We always threatened by non-existence. What will happen? I will die.
I I will die, ultimately we are all fearful of death. So no may not be when they make fiber, you know. What will happen with this So one cannot be happy in this material existence.
And this false understanding that I will become happy in this material life is just it's just maha illusion. You know, Indian people they think that they will become happy if they go to America.
India will become American, America will be doing us and those migrants. And American people they think they will become happy if they go come to India. But none of them will become happy.
Until we have this false identity that I am this body and this body is destined to uh die. We cannot be it. Because we are Ishada Peta Syadi Because our consciousness is completely absorbed in matter. Dvitiya Bhini Vesha.
We are absorbed in something which is not important. You know, when we wake up we see how to how we will eat and then you know when we eat we think how we will digest whatever we ate. It's so difficult.
Every someone's very submarine you something everything. I just wonder if when you're young like this it may then not be a problem, but when you become something like this it becomes very difficult.
So when people uh mm by some chance or by some spiritual practice or whatever uh get this real experience that I will not die because this Brahman realization is ultimately not just theoretical understanding but the practical understanding that I will exist ever always. I will exist. I exist. I am eternal.
When they get it, they become very happy. So the Brahman reality is the Vraamai, Atma, they call me a little bit, I'll be There is another example which is there in the internet. Very interesting example.
One Indian lady, she uh got a cancer, fourth stage of cancer.
And she actually explains that first her best friend she was something like 35 maybe 40 years old she was quite young and her best friend died of cancer and some we are hungry how about the And because she saw her best friend dying of cancer, she became very fearful. And she started meditating, I will also die of cancer.
This is how our mind works, because we have fear if we have some extra reason to become fearful we start thinking you know that yeah this will happen to me too.
So I don't look at what I'm getting when I'm trying to so that was so constant meditation. I will die of cancer, I will die of cancer. Sure enough, she got cancer. So I'm the very other thing to the cancer, no.
Because this is how the mind works. If you think about something, it will happen. So it's like the
mind is the kalpavriksha, it's a desire tree. So the kalpovrichaboda, if you If you tune it in a certain way, this will happen to you.
If you are very negative, you will attract negativity. If you are very positive, you will attract positivity. So she became very fearful and she got cancer and this cancer progressed very very rapidly and she lost you know sh sh she became practically reduced to a few kilos of flesh and she was suffering like anything.
So the cancer part itself. And then she was admitted to hospital and the doctors in the hospital told her husband and her children and even her father that that's it.
She doesn't have, you know, even the slightest chance to live.
It's just a question of So the darkest parts of husband power methods really. It's a real case very, you know thoroughly documented medically there was absolutely no chance they already sent a message to her brother and her brother you know he was rushing to the airport to come to So
And then at the moment of death she went into coma or into some death like state and stayed there and she left her body and she felt that I exist without this body.
And she didn't have any any other experience, the only experience which she had in this death episode, uh near death episode, is that I I exist without this body.
And she became very happy, you know, yeah, I can exist without this miserable body. So and she decided to come back. And she after after a couple of weeks she became completely normal and her whole cancer disappeared.
Now she is traveling all over the world and she preaches five things. I don't remember all five things, but I remember two of them. She says don't fear again for the and always love. The more love you the the better it is.
That's her spiritual teachings. So it's good. I mean sh she got some sh some real experience. But the point is that it's a very small experience. So it's not with it.
Śrīla Prabhupāda explains that this impersonal experience, it's real spiritual experience, Brahman experience, because you get the understanding that you are eternal you will not die. If you get this understanding, you are not this body.
If if it's not theoretical understanding, but real experience which you get, you become very happy. This body is is is a is a it's miserable thing.
I remember my mother when she was uh getting little old she got gray hairs in her uh head. And she didn't like it. No women like when their body becomes grey. So I remember very clearly I was a small boy.
She was sitting in front of the mirrors and she was plugging this grey hairs.
Because she didn't like that she's she's going to die. She didn't like these changes of the body. But if you get the experience that I will not die, no problem. You know, few gray hairs is not a big deal.
So the bit of create creating. And when Prabhupada speaks, you know how you get this experience.
One way to get this experience is uh you know if if you really get the mercy or whatever or you do some rigorous practice and you ultimately get this experience beyond the false ego, outside of false ego. But you can also get this experience by listening to somebody who has this experience.
So the animal which would be the animal the number would have given us. To Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu, which Vidwan Gaura Radha Prabhu has translated or edited in English, he says: śravaṇaṁ dvārā kiñcid-anubhūti-syāt. Just by listening you get little experience.
So, Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu, to reiterate a little more, if you listen somebody, some guru or acharya who has the spiritual experience, just by listening him, uh you will feel like the same. You will feel as if you have this experience yourself.
So Piriya Acharya I'm gonna put airport as border whenever we airput. People would feel, yes, I know this body, that's right.
So Prabhupada uh...prachāra, if I say this, way that I say this it may or may not have any effect, but when Prabhupada would say it, you know, people would be uplifted just by listening this.
Paramatma as the divine controller
So, to sum up, the ācārya would like to that's basically Brahman experience. I am not this body, I am I'm eternal spirit soul.
But Prabhupada says that higher than this is the experience of understanding that everything is under the control of Paramatma.
So you have the Puridam, you can see that when you feel all again, it's not the theory, the point is that when you see that everything is very harmoniously and beautifully under control of the Lord that means Paramatma experience.
So it was the very realization of Paramātmā and the first one. Like sometimes people who do astrology and they have this vision that everything, you know, they they see this cause and effect relationship and they see that nothing is happened without a reason.
Who was uh among the five brother Pandavas, he was very good in reading all the omens, all the signs, all the śakuna, śākhā, pāṭha, ādi, etcetera. and by seeing how the ants crawl he would understand you know what it means. He would see that you know he was speaking with the with the nature. And those people like astrology is a spiritual discipline and this spiritual discipline is necessary for you when you really practice astrology not to make money, not to just you know do some chart which you don't understand yourself.
But if you practice astrology it's for you to understand that that everything is Under the control of Paramātmā. So the Yoshi would the control of the Unand And that's the higher realization.
This paramatma realization is more higher because you see uh you know when you see that everything is one and you are one with everything, it's nice.
But when you see that there is a uh idea, the meaning behind everything which is happening, then it's much higher understanding. So in the Radakurna Kata is the freedom. When you realize that you will not die, it's good.
Now Yara Kamata Mandi Vadva is another way But when you realize that whatever is happening with you in this life is a very valuable teaching lesson which is sent to you by God, this is much higher.
Because i you will understand in this way how you should develop and which direction you should develop. And nothing then nothing bad will happen with you because it's so valuable lessons.
Even if disease comes to you, it's a valuable lesson. Like this lady which I uh explained the story of this lady, she realized this principle that I became uh she actually explains. I saw one of your interviews.
She's, you know, traveling everywhere, explaining this. She's a very joyful lady.
And she said that when she came back to the body, and the body was just bones and skin, and you know she couldn't walk, she was on a wheelchair, so they put her on the wheelchair and for the first time after many many days she was somehow rather be able to go in the wheelchair in the corridor otherwise she was laying on the bed in the hospital.
So on the reach and what is the and uh they brought her to the mirror and she saw her own reflection in the mirror.
So the battery. And she couldn't recognize herself because she was so bad, you know, she was just skin and bones. And after this experience, listen what she thought when she saw this reflection of her in this condition.
So I'm the Villaya Canadian was this is what you did to yourself. This is what you did to yourself. Because of this fear, because of this, she realized that she she was not living properly.
Instead of blaming somebody else, this is disease, the bad doctors, or my bad karma or whatever, she realized this is I did to myself. This is a very valuable realization which we should all have.
You know, whatever happens with me, I did to myself. It's not God, it's not my neighbors, it's not my husbands, it's not my children. It's I did it.
So when one understands that something which is happening to you is not without a reason, there is a cause behind this, this is the realization of Paramātmā, God as the controlling force in this material world.
So Namaskar and this is higher in higher understanding, higher uh int intelligence.
Those people who say that there is nothing higher than just to be one with everything, they are according to Krishna a Buddha. They are not intelligent. So we have to we have to say anything we have photography.
It's not bad, please understand it correctly, it's not bad to have this experience but to declare this experience as the highest achievement in human life, this is bad. So I don't say but I'm not going to do it.
If you limit your understanding of reality by this impersonal understanding, this is bad. This is a Buddha. Because ultimately this doesn't bring you to the spiritual realm of Vaikuṇṭha.
Supremacy of personal devotion to Bhagavan
And ultimately it doesn't bring you to Galok of Vrindavan to the highest realm of the spiritual.
And therefore, uh as it is said in Shrimad Bhagavatam very clearly, Brahmeti Paramadmiti, Bhagavan Hiti Shabhyate, the experiences which we have in this world, the spiritual experience, beyond material experience, they are hierarchically different.
The lowest one is this Brahman experience, the higher one is this paramatma experience, but the highest one is the loving relationship with Bhagavan.
If you just you know like Like people, those who know astrology know that to desire liberation and to take drugs, heavy drugs is the same.
Because when you take drugs or when you take alcohol and you become completely you know it's liberation. So it's a easy way to get liberation.
You just get some you know wine and become completely drunk. You're totally liberated. No problem.
You know, those people that because they completely they they lose their consciousness, they are not really, you know, they don't suffer anything, they're happy, you know, they just put some little drugs in your vein and they're happy for some time.
So we have a So yeah, this is mukti. This is mukti. This is this is nice but but this is not we what we want.
Because even as Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam it is that, pataty adhaḥ Those people who are by very hard austerities they get to this parampadam or get some sort of experience they you know pataty adhaḥ kṛcchrād they uh they fall down again into this material world. When
you become oblivious of your material problems for some time it's it's liberation. Yeah. You you're not rema you don't remember your material problem, it's liberation.
So new, but when you have loving relationship when somebody likes you and you love somebody and you're ready to give your life to this it's much higher.
And when we have loving relationships we also forget about our problems. Somebody has a problem, somebody whom we like.
And if we like God, we remember about His problems. And because he doesn't have problems, we don't have problems.
Chanting Hare Krishna for loving relationship
And so ultimately, you know, if we understand that this entering into loving relationship is the highest possible thing, then we will be able to lead our life properly.
And Prabhupada says that the beginning of this understanding, the the the very beginning of uh this understanding is to chant this Hare Krishna Mantra. And if you chant this Hare Krishna Maha Mantra, it means that you want to enter into personal relationship with Krishna.
You say Hare means, oh dear Hari, please take away all my problems. Tell take away all my um all my sins and all my offences. And make me be attracted to you, Hare Krishna.
First we have to be relieved or liberated from this attraction to this material world and to this material existence and to this material body.
Therefore we first say Hari, Hare, O Hari, O Hari. Take away, take away, take away. And then make me attracted to you. And when this attraction, when we feel this attraction, we feel complete bliss in in this attraction.
Like Prabhupada explains in the purport to this Hare Krishna Mahā-mantra that we are living entities, we are all uh the every living entities is pleasure seeking. We're seeking pleasure. We're seeking we want ananda.
So Ya Diva, ananda, anamu can the guru. But we can only get the real ananda when we enter into loving relationship with person God, with personality of God. And the Supreme Personality of God is Krishna.
And, of course, Mahabhadra Krishna. Of course, we are here in the capital of Sri Vaishnavas and they say that the Supreme Personality of God is Vishnu. So in Sri Lanka the Sri Vaishnava, Vishnu.
And I remember when I first came long back to Sri Rangam, it was 19 something, 1995, 96, I don't remember when it was. So I came to Ranganath and I saw
that or somebody told me or maybe I saw it that uh Ranganath is uh laying in this uh Anantashena, but inside his altar sannidhi, uh there is the pictures of Krishna of different past times of Krishna.
So remote writing action, like another one, Krishna on this I was saying the partnership.
And I asked, you know, why he he is Vishnu the Supreme Lord, if he is the Supreme Lord, why does he have you know all the Krishna pastimes inside his altar? So Narayana, Vishnu, Mahaperiyava.
and somebody said to me, oh, because he wants, you know, he it's like it's it's a nice līlā, very pleasurable līlā. If this is if it this is nicest then you even as a Vishnu you remember about this.
Why don't you be there all the time like Krishna? So Krishna wants to say, nila-vakraṇa, yeah, the Krishna nila-vakraṇa. You know, he is God. He doesn't have to just meditate on him being Krishna. He can be Krishna. So we
cannot You know, it's we sometimes dream if I become this or if I become that, if I become rich, you know, and this we dream. You know, but Lord, when He dreams, it becomes reality.
And because Ranganath always dreams about Krishna, he is always Krishna. So Ranganatha is, to be Krishna, is to be the young Krishna, Krishna. And therefore this our conception, Gaudi line conception, is very beautiful.
The highest manifestation of God is akhila-rasāmṛta-mūrti, he is God who is the most capable of entering into loving relationship. He wants to exchange love with us.
And not only he wants to do it, he is the most capable of doing it. And we can do it by chanting Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rāma Hare Rāma Rāma Rāma Hare Hare.
So thank you very much I think I spoke too long. Thank you. Thank you.